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Malaysia Friday
Press Conference
Ross BRAWN (Ferrari), Mike GASCOYNE (Toyota), Sam MICHAEL
(Williams), Pat SYMONDS (Renault) and Geoffrey WILLIS (B A R)
March 18, 2005
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TEAM PRINCIPALS: Ross BRAWN
(Ferrari), Mike GASCOYNE (Toyota), Sam MICHAEL (Williams),
Pat SYMONDS (Renault) and Geoffrey WILLIS (B A R)
Q: First of all, what have you learned from today and in
Australia about the new rules?
Sam Michael: Obviously, they are different, but not as bad
as we thought they were going to be in terms of management.
I think on the ‘aero’ side, obviously, the down-force levels
have changed, but everyone is working very hard to get them
back to where they were last year and that’s why I think
we’ll see a lot of developments in the first three or four
races. On the tire front, I think both tire companies were
quite conservative in Melbourne so the wear rates were
pretty low compared to what we may see later on in the year
and that is understandable given all the concern pre-season
and it won’t take long for them to get to the wear rates
they intend to reach – and, on the engines, we are only
half-way through, so, in Williams case, obviously we split
our choice because we changed the engine on Nick’s car after
Melbourne. So we have to wait until after this race to see
how this pans out.
Ross Brawn: I think it is too early to judge. Melbourne is
not a typical race and is not the hardest circuit on tires
and we obviously had ‘the weather’ in qualifying. I think
the rules have been successful in slowing the cars down,
despite some skepticism from some of your colleagues. They
have genuinely slowed them down so they have been successful
in that and, remember, without the changes, they would be
one or two seconds faster than last year. So, they have
slowed down the progress of the tire companies and on the
car and I think it was necessary so it’s been successful in
that respect. As to the format of the racing, I think we’ll
have to see how it goes for a while. It is tough, the
two-race engine, and not everyone is doing the mileage they
might have done. But, I think, as the season goes on, the
mileage will build up and there will be more mileage on
Friday and Saturday than we are seeing at the moment.
Pat Symonds: Well, yes, it’s very early days. Before the
season started, I said to my guys that you shouldn’t even
think that you will understand the tire thing until Sunday
night in Malaysia at best. Melbourne is not a typical
circuit and very often has a strange format, as again it had
this year, and it’s not that hard on tires and, as Sam said,
certainly, we were conservative. I think here we are being
slightly conservative, but it is conservatism from ignorance
rather than clever conservatism. There’s a long way to go
yet and we shouldn’t make snap judgments and it is very
difficult for us, the teams, particularly in terms of tire
choice -- and part of your question is about what we learned
today and the answer is ‘very little indeed!’ With just two
sets of tires to run on, it is really impossible to do any
scientific evaluation of them. It’s tricky, but the same for
everyone. Let’s see how it develops over the next few races.
Mike Gascoyne: I agree with the comments everyone else has
made. We have to wait and see how it pans out. As everyone
said Melbourne was not a normal situation and it is
difficult to do all the work in winter testing, when the
track temperatures are five degrees, and try to plan for
when it is 40 or 50 degrees. But that was inevitable at the
start of the year. In terms of the grid, it seems to have
closed things up and that is only good for Formula One .As
to how all the rules have panned out, we have to wait and
see.
Geoffrey Willis: In terms of performance, it is too early to
say what we have learned about who is stronger and weaker.
In terms of the operation of a car over the weekend, I think
we showed last year that we are all pretty good at
responding to the changes and learning to work with only two
tires today and try to make some sort of scientific
evaluation – and I am sure Pat is actually making a
scientific evaluation and not a non-scientific evaluation –
but the tricky thing for us is how little we are running and
maybe that is something, as Ross says, that as we get more
confident through the season, we will get more running
because it is fairly quiet first session. I think very much
like last year, we will get better at it. We will understand
it and we will find it was not so much of a change as we
thought.
Q: What have you done here to cope with the extreme
conditions and is it the ultimate test for the rest of the
year?
PS: Well, extreme conditions… I guess you mean temperature
more than anything. It’s not like it was a few years ago
when you came to a place like this --and I’m not talking
that many years ago -- and there was an element of
estimation about cooling and things like that because,
again, you had gone through the European winter testing and
(it was) very difficult to even do measurements on the
system, because of oil pouring and things like this. But it
is different now and we have a great deal of confidence in
measurements we make on dynamometers in wind tunnels and
things and it really doesn’t lead us to any great surprises
on engine cooling. We tend actually to concentrate on
cooling things like electronic boxes and things like that
but it is not big surprise. It is all pretty well planned
for these days.
RB: Well, we have the benefit of last year’s car so in terms
of cooling and all that side it is all pretty well taken
care of, so we have no surprises there. I think it is the
first race where tire wear can become an issue and so we
have been conscious of that. This race last year, we
couldn’t have done on one set of tires whereas Melbourne
last year was comfortable on one set. So it’s the first race
we’re facing under new rules where we have got to manage
that situation and I suspect it could be on Sunday an issue
at the end of the race. I am not sure how conservative
everyone will be, but it is so difficult to predict on a
Friday or a Saturday what wear rates you are going to get on
a Sunday. That will depend on lots of variables that you
cannot predict or don’t have under control. So I think it is
going to be an interesting weekend from that aspect and the
whole scenario this year of trying to evaluate tire wear is
going to be a big factor for us.
SM: On the engine side, you basically shift from one
extreme, in Melbourne, to the other here, in terms of
minimum and maximum ambient temperatures for the year. There
is only really this place, and sometimes Hungary, and we
don’t know about Turkey yet, that run up about 36 to 39
degrees. So, it obviously presents a (need for) set of
coolings and exits for the bodywork that are not normally
run at other tracks. That’s something we evaluate in the
wind tunnel and at other tracks. On the tire front, the same
thing; this place, because of the high-speed corners and the
surface abrasiveness, is very different to Melbourne.
GW: On cooling systems, I don’t think it’s a particularly
big challenge here. Yes it’s extreme temperatures, but now
we are all experienced and we can predict from one circuit
to another and from one year to another. So it is relatively
straightforward to get the cooling of the engine and the
electronics, as Pat says, which in these conditions can get
very close. In fact, we made some small changes at the last
test for this race. The real issue is going to be tire-wear
in this race and it is something we will need to think about
carefully and it may have an effect on the outcome, but I
suspect both tire companies are being conservative so (I am)
not expecting any big surprises. There may be a mix-up
towards the end.
MG: Certainly, with both tires and the cooling and the heat,
things are on the limit. I agree with what Pat said, for us
with the cooling its on the limit but its meant to be
because it is the hottest place of the year. We do our work
in the wind tunnel and our simulations and we have a vast
wealth of experience now and we don’t tend to get it wrong.
But you have to take care because it is obviously very hot.
Q: Sam, everyone predicted you would not be very good in
Melbourne but it turned out better than you expected. Was
that a surprise?
SM: Well, fifth is still not very good in our books in terms
of position and ‘dnf’ on the other car, but I think from
where we started with the FW27, at the start of February, it
was definitely down on performance compared to what we had
in Melbourne. If you said that we would come away from there
with four points, a week before the Grand Prix, I think we
would have said ‘okay, that’s relatively good’. But after
the race, we felt we could have done better. But I think you
have got to be careful about Melbourne because of what
happened in qualifying even though the cars did their
lap-times at the right time and were reasonable in the race,
the qualifying put, I think, four or five cars outside the
top 14 or 15 that would not normally be there, so there were
cars lapping similarly to us behind us -- and if they had
started the race in front of us, it would have been a hard
task to overtake them. So, at the same time, it was a good
few points in the bag but nothing to get excited about.
Q: Ross, The new car is scheduled for Spain. Is that still
happening?
RB: We have an option to bring it to Bahrain. A lot will
depend on this weekend and a lot on next week, which is the
first week the racing drivers will get to drive the car
because Luca Badoer has been driving it in testing so we
don’t have an opinion. He is very positive about the car,
but I would like to hear what Michael and Rubens say about
the car before we make a decision. So, we are testing next
week. We could if we wanted to stretch it, take it to
Bahrain and it will depend on our competitiveness this
weekend whether we feel the new car could have made a
difference to whatever results we get this weekend and what
the drivers say about the car next week. Around the middle
of next week, we will have to make a decision because the
car will have to leave for Bahrain next weekend. So, there
could be a scenario this weekend where we are not
competitive, but the car would not have made much difference
because, obviously, tires are so significant and if we are a
long way off on the tires this weekend, I am not sure the
car would make a difference. If we lose the race, and feel
the difference could have been made up by the car, then it
could accelerate the introduction of the car so we will see
what happens this week and then see what the drivers think
of the new car and then make a decision.
Q: Did that have a bearing on why you didn’t change the
engine on Michael’s car?
RB: Partly, yes. It’s because, obviously, if we had changed
it, it would have made it more difficult. We wouldn’t have
had the option to take the new car for him to Bahrain. But
the engine that got a little bit warm when stuck in the
gravel… it was nothing too severe… All the engines of all
the cars got hot because of the restart so the temperatures
in the gravel were no worse than they were at the second
start in Melbourne. So, we weren’t particularly bothered. It
could have been an option. So, we didn’t do it, to give us
the option to run the new car in Bahrain.
Q: Pat, obviously a fantastic performance in Melbourne… Can
you maintain that or was it a flash in the pan?
PS: I don’t think it was a flash in the pan. Can we maintain
it? Certainly, we are trying to… We certainly had some luck
in Melbourne and I would be the first to admit that, but
still during the race on clear tracks the cars were quick
and as good as anything out there. It is one specific
circuit, but not that untypical of the requirements needed
from the various parts of the car. I am hopeful we can do it
and the whole team feels very confident and the drivers love
driving the car and they feel very comfortable with it and
yes we are going to keep on going and try to do it again.
Q: Mike, Toyota put out a statement about the interpretation
of the rules regarding engine changes during the week. What
is your interpretation of them?
MG: Well, for me, there are two things that are very
disappointing about what happened… a) I think we could have
seen it coming – we had asked for clarifications from the
FIA and they chose not to act and now they have issued
something further and I think if they were going to do that
they could have done that before the season started and made
it all a bit clearer for everything… You know, if you are
the manager of a football team and you are losing 3-0 with
five minutes to go you don’t pull the team off to save them
from injury or something do you? There are spectators and
fans and sponsors out there and they want to see the cars
running. Personally, and from Toyota, we think you should
take the flag. That’s what sport is about. It’s a shame in
Formula One that people say it is inevitable because there
is a loophole and we are going to exploit it. Life should
not necessarily be that skeptical and we ought to start the
race and look to compete in it and finish.
Q: So, Geoff, what was your motivation then?
GW: Formula One is a competition and it was a very clear
option available to us and understood by all and I am
surprised that nobody else chose to do it. I know for a fact
that some did think of doing it, but didn’t do so. So, it
was the regulation at the time and its now been closed off
by clarification so it wont be available in the future.
QUESTIONS FROM THE FLOOR
Q: ( Stephanie Morin - La Presse) Question for Geoff Willis:
Mr Willis, you’re not allowed to use a third driver this
year. How does it complicate your job and can you see the
impact of that in the results?
GW: It’s a little too early to say what the impact is in
terms of results. We’ve certainly lost an advantage we had
last year. The use of a third driver, a very experienced
driver in the team, Anthony Davidson, would have been very
useful this year for helping with tire choice, being able to
have more tires and being able to not worry about engine
mileage on Friday so certainly it’s an advantage to have it,
but as we knew that as we got a good result in the
championship last year that it wasn’t going to be available
to us this year. We’re just going to have to, like the other
top teams, find a way round it.
Q: (Mark Hughes – Autosport) Ross, from your simulations so
far, what do they suggest is the margin of the 05 car over
the 04B?
RB: Well, with both simulation and track work it’s between a
half and one second. Yeah, that’s the number.
Q: (Steve Cooper – F1 Racing) To Pat and Geoff, you’ve both
had recent experience working with Jacques Villeneuve. I
wonder if you could talk about your experiences of him as a
driver and whether you’ve been surprised by his recent pace
in a Sauber?
PS: Yeah, I suppose I get it first as I’ve had the most
recent experience. I think that when Jacques came to our
team I didn’t know him terribly well. I’d spoken to him a
few times but I didn’t know him terribly well and a lot of
my opinion of him, I think, was formed by what I had read
about him and I found a very different character. He
certainly has a reputation of being very laid back and he’s
not laid back, he actually works quite hard and he has a lot
of interest in the car and what’s going on. During the race,
he’s very good. He’s on the radio all the time, talking
through the race, talking to his engineer; a lot of very,
very positive points about him as a driver and I can
understand how he won the World Championship. He suffered a
lot with us, I think, because the rate of progress in
Formula One had been so rapid that his short time out made a
big difference. We first ran him at Silverstone and, after a
day, he was struggling a little bit against the other driver
who was there, and I didn’t appreciate it until he said it,
but he had just done his fastest lap around Silverstone, by
quite a considerable margin. And I think he found that
difficult. He found the fitness difficult, we were going to
three quite hard races at the end of the year and I think he
was disappointed in his performance, but it certainly wasn’t
through lack of effort.
GW: It’s a difficult question to answer. I get the
impression that Jacques is not particularly happy in his
current position. I’m sure he wasn’t happy with Melbourne’s
race. Obviously being outside the team, I’m not aware of
what the issues are. As Pat says, he’s a hard-working
driver, who’s got a lot of experience in the car. The cars
have changed quite a lot since he was driving for us two
years ago. I think he’s very sensitive to what the car does,
what the engine does and he gives a lot of feedback, so I’m
sure he will be having quite a lot of detailed conversations
with his engineers at the moment. He’s an extraordinarily
competitive character and I’m sure he will be trying to get
it back.
Q: (Anthony Rowlinson – Autosport) Question for Ross:
Michael didn’t have the best start to his championship
campaign in Melbourne. Do you think he’s got the fight in
him to start from the back foot as it were, for the next 18
races?
RB: Yeah. I’m sure he has and it’s given him a bit of extra
incentive and when you know him, you see the signs. He
arrived this weekend… he’s been on the ‘phone during the
testing of the new car. One day I had a call from him and I
was trying to work out where he was because it was a strange
time of day and it was 2am in Thailand or wherever he was.
He was very keen to know about the new car. He’s been pretty
punchy this weekend and determined to get back on the points
trail. I just see the normal commitment and determination
that Michael always has so no doubt about it. Circumstances
may be outside of his control, and it would be disappointing
to leave this weekend without some points for him, but I
don’t think it would be for lack of effort on his side and I
think it’s a good challenge for him that he relishes.
Q: (Mike Doodson) A question for all of you: the president
of the international federation has been dropping hints or
perhaps a little more strongly suggesting that a new Formula
One in the future would benefit from, he suggests, a 90 per
cent reduction in down-force and the possibility of a return
to big rear tires. I’m interested to know from you technical
guys whether it really is possible to recreate the cars of
30 years ago or would you guys find the missing 90 percent
of downforce in 10 minutes?
RB: I don’t know that we’re trying to recreate what went on
30 years ago, I don’t think that’s the motive because I
think just to look back and say ‘how wonderful it was then,
let’s go back’ is not the best way to approach it. I think
there is some very clear evidence that the reason it’s
difficult to overtake in Formula One is because for a car
following the car in front, the aerodynamics are spoilt by
following the car in front, so when a large percentage of
the grip of the car is provided by aerodynamics then by very
definition it’s very difficult for two cars to follow each
other. That makes overtaking more difficult. So there have
been discussions about trying to cut the down-force down to
a level that would minimize that, or reduce it. It would
still keep the cars fast by increasing tire grip. That has
some possibly beneficial side effects because if you spin
the car when you normally lose the aerodynamic performance
you’ve still got the tire grip so cars would slow down more
quickly. The difficulty for all of us is that for as long as
I can remember being in Formula One we’ve followed this Holy
Grail of aerodynamics and it’s a huge cultural shift for
people in Formula One and that’s why it’s quite difficult
for us to take a balanced view. We’ve all invested a huge
amount in wind tunnels, we’ve all got major aerodynamic
programmes running and the prospect of reducing them, or
reducing the importance of them is not very palatable, but I
think if it’s far enough in the future, Formula One owes it
to itself and its followers and supporters to have a proper
look and see what sort of cars we should have in three or
four years time and try and put to one side for a moment our
cultural difficulties. I think there’s a lot of good reason
why high tire grip and low down-force could provide a better
racing formula.
PS: I think it’s a very difficult thing to talk about when
you start putting numbers to it. If you were to say there
could be merit in reducing down-force and increasing tire
grip and, particularly, perhaps, putting more emphasis on
what the rear tires are doing, there is evidence to suggest
that it could improve overtaking opportunities. To
extrapolate the work that’s been done and say you should go
to ten percent of the down-force we have now is a dangerous
extrapolation. I don’t know whether it’s a linear effect, I
don’t know whether anyone knows that because no-one has
actually sat down and gone that far and looked at it. I
think that there is a good process going on now. Ross is
quite right that there are an awful lot of people in Formula
One who have an ingrained culture and I find it surprising
sometimes that for, such an exciting sport, with so many
pretty clever people involved in it, how rarely they will
look out of the box and apply a bit of lateral thinking. I
don’t subscribe to the fact that Formula One is in dire
straits. It is still a good formula. It still has a good fan
base, but we should not be complacent. We should be looking
at improving it, and we have a bit of a watershed coming up
which allows us to do that, so I think it’s a very good
thing that people are looking now at what’s required, but at
these very early stages of looking at it, we should be
careful about talking about numbers and things like that.
SM: I think that looking at the rules, to the future, seeing
what you can improve and whether it’s safety or reducing
costs are fine, but it does need a lot of analysis. I think
when I first saw the number of reducing down-force by 90 per
cent, I was surprised at such a large number because you’re
into a level of touring cars then. I’m probably one of the
more engrained people if you like, as Pat says, because I
very much see Formula One as, from a team point of view, as
an aerodynamic challenge. It’s one of the biggest parts of
Formula One since I’ve been in it and becoming more so. If
you look outside a full-blown manufacturer team that does
their own engine, the three main variables are tires,
engines and aerodynamics. I guess it is a cultural shift to
something else, but whether you have to do it all in one
step is something that needs a lot of looking into, but my
first and initial reaction to it was definitely that’s too
far.
GW: There are a number of points here. The first is
supporting what’s been said: it’s very easy to jump in and
say ‘we’re going to make a rule change, this is going to
help overtaking.’ As we’ve seen already this year –
something we didn’t anticipate – it looks as though it’s
much harder to follow cars closely with the new aerodynamic
regulations and possibly harder as well to overtake, and
that’s (following) a relatively small loss in down-force
which has certainly not helped. So therefore, if we’re going
to set ourselves this target, we need to study it pretty
carefully and probably need to get some fairly realistic
aerodynamic studies done and studies of what’s going to
happen if we change the balance between aerodynamic and
mechanical grip. I think, overall, what we’ve got to make
sure of is not just that we have close racing, overtaking,
but we have to keep Formula One as a technical pinnacle. It
has to be the fastest motor sport out there and one of the
worries that I have is that if we have reduce the down-force
to ten percent, if that’s our objective, it’s going to be
quite difficult to keep it at the level of being the
fastest, the most impressive, the most visually stunning
form of motor sport. I think we do need to see racing where
cars are closer to each other, not necessarily lots of
overtaking, but probably close proximity. If we cast our
minds back over the last 15 or 20 years, a lot of what we
remember as good races, didn’t have many overtaking
maneuvers, but they had many almost overtaking maneuvers. I
think as long as we find, technically, some solution, which
comes up with that, then the numbers will come out of that
rather just setting ourselves a target. So I would be a
little bit wary.
And the other point is that Mike said ‘going back to cars of
30 years ago’. It’s not going to happen really because the
cars now are so much better engineered, they are
phenomenally reliable, they can be driven right to 99
percent of their performance throughout the race. These are
all things that have changed and are unlikely to go back and
they have changed the nature of racing.
MG: I think Formula One at the moment is still the pinnacle
of motor sport and that’s what’s made it very, very
successful. For sure, we mustn’t be complacent and improve
the show for all the people that watch it. I just think that
whatever we do, it needs to be really, really well
thought-out rather than firing from the hip. I think there
is general agreement amongst the experts that changing the
ratio between aerodynamic grip and mechanical grip could be
beneficial for the sport, but we have to make sure we do it
properly, commission the correct studies from experts in the
field, and unfortunately Formula One is so advanced in terms
of motor sport the experts in the field are within the
teams, not outside. So we’ve got to make sure that, as a
group, we get the correct regulations to really improve the
sport, not just change it. We need to improve it.
Q: (Anne Giuntini – L’Equipe) To the four of you who have
not a third car on Fridays: what is now the use of Fridays
and in which way should it be changed in the future?
SM: I think it would naturally come from anybody who has not
got a third car to say that they don’t think you should have
one any more, so it’s a bit of a loaded question, because
the people outside the top four will clearly want one, and
especially this year, because it’s very beneficial,
particularly with the new engine regulations. But I think if
you go back to the reason why that rule was originally put
there, it was agreed so that specifically the two small
teams, Jordan and Minardi at the time were running pay
drivers and they wanted to have a third car on Fridays so
that they could do that. It’s obviously not being used for
that intention now, but if it helps level up the grid, then
that’s another debate. But our opinion would be not to have
a third car on Friday.
RB: I think it’s a gross anomaly in that, as Sam said, it
was intended to give some commercial benefit to the less
well-off teams to enable them to sell a third car for a
Friday. And to have a team of the calibre of McLaren or last
year BAR having the benefit of a third car on a Friday is a
nonsense. I don’t agree with it. Particularly with the
regulations we have now, it’s a huge benefit. I don’t know
how many laps McLaren did today, but they can run round with
an engine that’s not going to be used, they can run a
reasonable number of sets of tires and it doesn’t make any
sense. I can’t see the logic in it, so it’s something, which
to me is just a piece of nonsense.
PS: I think I would go a little bit further than that. I
think the question was probably a bit more general about
what we really think about Fridays. I think they are a bit
of an anachronism now. There’s certainly been talk of moving
towards a two-day Grand Prix event, and I think what we’re
seeing in the early part of this year is probably evidence
that reinforces that argument, and I think it’s probably a
pretty good argument. There are lots of other things that
could be combined with it: whether we have a test session on
the Friday or whatever, but certainly the current Friday is
not a terribly exciting event, I don’t think.
GW: Yes, I think Pat’s got a point that Friday, for those
teams that don’t have a third car, with the new engine
regulations, is a day we do very little running. We do the
minimum we can to get a good read on the two tire choices,
and what it shows is that we don’t really need Friday in
order to get a set-up for the race weekend, and it has
become an anachronism and it’s probably time that we changed
the format of the race weekend to do something positive with
Fridays to give much more value for the people that watch
either at the circuit or on the TV.
Q: (Mike Doodson) As a follow-up to that question, Mr
Ecclestone has suggested that we all stay here on Monday and
use that as a test session, and then cut down on other
testing. What do you think of that idea?
RB: I’ve had a bellyful of Formula One by Sunday night.
(Laughter) If it’s cut down, it can be cut down without
Monday testing. No seriously, the drivers are hopeless on a
Monday. The days when we used to have a Monday testing after
a race, the race drivers were a waste of time. That’s why we
didn’t do it in the end. Monday was the first day to be cut
out of the test schedule when we agreed limits on testing a
few years ago.
MG: From my side, 19 races this year is a very difficult
thing for the teams. People are away from home a long time
and a race weekend is a pretty intensive period so, to add a
couple of days on it, is totally unfeasible. I think that
idea is not very close to reality. I just don’t think we
could do it.
Q: (Anthony Rowlinson – Autosport) Ross, just a technical
question for you: obviously this year the 2005 car will be
the first car that hasn’t been specifically designed by Rory
Byrne. I wonder if you would just give us some background on
how that technical transition is being managed and if it’s
making any difference to the way the team is working?
RB: It’s not a huge difference. It’s been a pretty gradual
process, Aldo Costa’s involvement. Aldo’s always had a
strong involvement with all the Ferraris since I’ve been
there. Rory’s a fantastic concept and he used to let Aldo
take care of the detail. So Aldo’s been pretty involved with
all the Ferraris. For the last couple of years Aldo’s had a
major input or a bigger input into the concept of the car
and this year Rory stepped back and provided a safety net to
make sure Aldo didn’t trip over and he doesn’t seem to have.
He’s done a very good job with this new car and Rory, I
guess, is going off into a general retirement. I don’t think
he’ll ever quite leave Ferrari. I think his heart will be at
Ferrari for a very long time and we’d love him to stay
involved in some capacity or other but it’s been a gradual
process. The two of them get on very well. They share
philosophies and we’re very lucky in that they both have an
excellent relationship, so it’s been an easy process and I
don’t think you’ll notice the join, quite honestly.
Q: (Dan Knutson – National Speed Sport News) Now that the
season has started, and nine of the teams have self-imposed
testing limits, a question to all five of you: how much of
an advantage is it to Ferrari to be able to basically test
as much as they want?
RB: Well, it’s a big topic, Dan, as you can imagine. We
wanted to find a solution. We don’t want to be at odds with
our fellow teams, but we had a difficult situation, the only
sensible team on Bridgestone’s and a team that has invested,
over the past few years, in testing facilities. We have two
of our own test tracks, which we’ve invested a lot of money
in. Nobody else has those facilities, so we were in a fairly
unique position and we simply couldn’t find a compromise. We
tried to offer some compromises, but they weren’t acceptable
to the other teams and their compromises were not acceptable
to us. It’s an unfortunate situation because we would have
very much liked to have found a solution. I saw some data
the other day, which Bridgestone had generated, where we’ve
done 20 per cent of the test mileage of the Michelin teams,
and it’s a very steep learning curve on the tires at the
moment, and that’s pretty significant. I think as the tires
level off, as the learning curve levels off on the tires,
then maybe it will be less significant. But with these
tires, we’re having to do a lot of mileage to evaluate them,
because you’re into studying the wear patterns, studying the
wear projections, and if you look at testing now, a lot of
it is pounding round doing mileage. We couldn’t allow
ourselves to be disadvantaged by being the only runner on
Bridgestone tires, because we get no help from – with all
due respect – we get no help from Jordan or Minardi, so it
was impossible to find a compromise between the teams. So I
don’t think it’s an advantage, but perhaps my colleagues
will disagree, because we have to do all the Bridgestone
running and there’s no one else doing it for us.
GW: I think certainly for BAR-Honda it’s a disadvantage to
have agreed to limit our testing, that’s quite clear, but we
made that agreement because we think it’s a positive thing
to get some control of the amount of testing we do, and
there is a significant cost associated with testing in terms
of shipping the cars, the wear and tear, the use of
components that are ‘lifed’. It is a significant part of the
expenditure of a team. However, we still feel that we needed
to have as much testing – more testing – than we’ve agreed
to, but, despite that, we think it’s in the long-term
interest that we do end up with a certain amount of control
and that’s why we happily signed up to this agreement. I
think it’s a good sign that at least nine teams, at the
moment, have agreed to it. All the individual teams have to
do quite a lot of running for the reliability, particularly
for engines with the new regulations. It will be, with the
change of regulations, a season where we see quite a lot of
developments as Sam said earlier, so for sure, it will be
more difficult, towards the end of the year and we’ll have
to be very disciplined in controlling it, but that’s what
we’ve all agreed to do, and I’m very confident that we will
all continue to agree.
MG: I think if you look at the cost issue, the easiest way
to save money in Formula One is not to run a Formula One
car. The single most expensive item is the engine and
physically we don’t have to build one to run in a test car.
So I think that from the nine teams, it was good that there
was a clear agreement to reduce testing and I think there’s
feeling among the technical people that we could probably go
even further, and I think that would be something that’s
very positive for Formula One. I think the situation that
exists with one team testing all the time, is not a
comfortable one. The comments about Bridgestone versus
Michelin and the number of teams – that isn’t a situation
that’s happened overnight. Everyone should be playing on a
level playing field and at the moment it’s not and that’s
unfortunate for Formula One.
PS: I’ve often been quoted as saying that I don’t really
mind what the rules are because they are the same for
everyone. Now, this isn’t a rule, of course, it’s an
agreement, but it is the first time in my knowledge that we
have had one rule for one and another rule for others and
therefore you might expect that I would feel pretty bad
about it, but funnily enough that’s not the case. Renault
are not a rich team and last year the testing agreement was
that you could test 48 days; I think, it was. There were no
restrictions on how many places you went testing. Most of
our competitors took full advantage of that. They ran 48
days; they were very often running in multiple venues. Our
budget didn’t stretch to that. We could only afford to do 36
days testing in the season last year and we could only test
at one venue, so, strangely enough, while, yes, Ferrari
might be getting some advantage from it, although, yes, Ross
has a point, but in my mind that’s a fact of life rather
than an excuse (sic)… On the other hand, we as a team have
probably gained from it, because we’ve pulled other teams
back to our level, so it’s an unusual situation, but
strangely enough, a compromise that I’m not too
uncomfortable with.
SM: I think that the level of testing that we do now,
probably 50 percent of our testing is on tires, doing tire
testing, and it is a valid point, as Ross has said, and if I
try and put myself in their shoes, I would probably be
fighting the same corner. But the thing that the testing
reduction has probably done has made us look very closely at
efficiency which is something that I think Renault went
through in 2003 I think it was when we had that Friday
morning testing option. It’s made us certainly look a lot
harder at ourselves and if I look at the actual loss of
information and data gathering compared to last year it’s
not a great deal. It’s definitely not in line with the
percentage of cost-saving, so the cost saving that we’ve
made is massive compared to the information that we’ve lost.
It is definitely helped by having seven teams on Michelin
tires because it gives Michelin a big pool of data to work
from but in terms of the singular effect on the team, it’s
been good.
Q: (Alan Henry – The Guardian) Could I ask Sam whether
Patrick (Head) a few weeks ago was talking about the
problems you had calibrating the two wind tunnels? Are you
on top of that problem now? Could you give us some insight
as to what it was all about?
SM: I think that whenever you are looking at the correlation
between track and wind tunnels, it’s not a perfect world and
I think that problem exists all the time. What Patrick was
referring was that we’ve just commissioned a new wind tunnel
and the figures in that are… even if you compare between two
different wind tunnels are always going to be different, so
what he was referring to was the difference between our old
wind tunnel and our new wind tunnel. Those figures were
different and then different again to the car on the track,
so it was just a matter of making sure all your calibration
factors and correction numbers are correct. It doesn’t
affect the performance of the car on the track as such. It’s
just something that needs to be… it’s an ongoing thing that,
ever since I’ve been in Formula One, you’re always looking
for better correlation from track to tunnel and it’s not
something that’s currently affecting us.
Q: (Alan Henry – The Guardian) Are you on top of it?
SM: Yes.
Q: (Heinz Pruller – ORF) There’s a new team in Formula One,
it’s an Austrian team, Red Bull. I would like your own
personal view of the team, what you like, what you dislike,
the pluses and the minuses, and how far this new outfit can
go?
SM: I think that from what I saw in Melbourne they’ve
obviously done a pretty good job of their car over the
winter. They’ve improved, relative to others, which means
they’ve obviously made a good handle of the rule changes.
And if I also look at the areas they’re investing in, you’ve
only got to look at the job adverts in Autosport, they’ve
got a full-page for about ten aerodynamicists. They clearly
know where they need to spend their money so… and that’s a
big change from where they’ve been in the past. But we’ll
have to see how they keep up with the development rate
during the year.
RB: I think it’s a good thing for Formula One. Eddie was
struggling a bit, and it’s never nice to see somebody
struggling. Sorry, Jaguar were struggling, but the same
thing applies. It’s never nice to see teams struggling, and
to see teams with a fresh impetus like Red Bull have got is
a good thing. I think in this whole scenario of cost saving,
it’s very difficult to control what the top teams spend. I
think it’s impossible because we spend what we can get. I
think that what’s important is that we make Formula One
viable for teams like Red Bull and teams like Jordan was or
is going to become and Minardi, make sure that Formula One
is viable for those teams and that they can put up a
respectable performance and make a good impression in
Formula One, and certainly Red Bull seem to be doing that. I
think it’s a very positive sign and the nature of Red Bull
probably means they are going to bring a little bit of a
different character to Formula One, I certainly hope so,
because it would benefit from that. Seeing David Coulthard
openly interviewed is certainly more entertaining than it
used to be. I think it’s a very positive thing.
PS: I think technically over the winter, they looked like
they were doing a good job, and that was shown in Melbourne.
It’s one race out of 19 but I think there’s every sign that
they’re going to have a very successful season and it’s good
to see that. Let’s not forget that the groundwork that was
done for that car, was done by the Jaguar team, but
nevertheless, good for them, and they do look they are going
about things the right way technically. In other ways, I
very much echo what Ross has said. They’ve said they are
going to bring the fun back. Well, let’s have more of them.
MG: I think that technically they’ve obviously done a very
good job. I was at Tyrrell when it was sold to BAR and the
uncertainty that that gives you and the disruption in a team
is enormous. They had a long period of uncertainty which Red
Bull stepped in and ended but to keep their focus, and do
the job they’ve done – which is obviously a very, very
creditable job – is a great effort under very difficult
circumstances so I would really pay tribute to their
engineers who did an excellent job.
GW: You certainly get the impression it’s a re-vitalized
team. As Mike said, it’s a difficult transition at the end
of the Jaguar era, and I think it’s good to have more
financial commitment into Formula One, good to have another
team which is full of confidence and we’ll looking forward
to seeing what happens in this first year.
Q: ( Jose Carron – La Tribune de Geneve) Question for Geoff
Willis: what are the chances of BAR releasing Davidson, if
he’s required by another team?
GW: Yes, this story…. Very much the same as have been the
discussions we had last year with the possibility of Anthony
driving for one or two teams. It is that Anthony is a BAR
driver at the moment. We don’t have our driver decisions
made for 2006 and therefore if we had any discussion with
Anthony driving for another team this year, it would only be
on the grounds that it would be for a single year and I
think that that’s our position. But I would say that we have
had no contact whatsoever, so you are probably better
informed than we are.
Q: (Anne Giuntini – L’Equipe) To all of you: given the huge
amount of work on Sundays, did you find difficulties in
organization in Melbourne?
PS: Small answer, it’s difficult and yes.
RB: I think because it was new to us, though we’d had the
forced qualification in Suzuka, it was a little bit tricky
but we’ll cope. So it’s not a big deal and not that
different to when we used to have warm-ups on a Sunday.
SM: Yeah, same for us: there’s no real problem. You go in
sequence now anyway; probably the only thing that it’s done
is that you’re in later here on Saturday night doing
strategy whereas last year strategy was fixed after first
qualifying.
GW: I think that we’ve all learned, over the last few years,
as the format of the race weekend has changed, that we can
be flexible and we can quickly learn how to operate to a new
timetable.
MG: Yeah, I think that last year it was strange to be
sitting around all Sunday morning, or over the last few
years, with nothing to do. You’re there, from that point of
view it presents difficulties but we’re all here, we might
as well be doing something and entertaining the crowds.
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